John David Dobie & Isabella Russell
John David Dobie, born about 1812, Dumfries, SCT1
(son of William Dobie and Mary Murdock) occupation:
Stonecutter, farmer, married in SCT2 Mary Isabella Russell,
born circa 1813, Scotland3 (daughter of John Russell and
Elizabeth Murdoch) died 3-Nov-1886, Owen Sound, Ont.4 buried
Chatsworth U.C. Cemetery, Grey Co., Ont.5. John died 16-May-1882,
Chatsworth, Ont.4, buried Chatsworth U.C. Cemetery, Grey Co.,
Ont.5. A girl, Elizabeth, age 12, was shown living with this family in
the 1881 census. This would probably have been Mary Elizabeth, daughter of William Currie Dobie.
Information supplied by Mr. Brent Scollie, of Ottawa (January, 2000) is that two Port Arthur newspapers
state that Mary Isabella Russell had just moved into her daughter's house on Boyd
Street in Owen Sound. She fell into a cistern and was drowned.
John Dobie (b. 1812, Dumfries, SCT.,
d. 1882, Chatsworth, Ont.) and Isabella Russell (b. 1813, d. 1886, Chatsworth).
Photo by Wm. Craig, Owen Sound. Laser photocopy courtesy John McEachern.
The following is from a biography of John's son, William Currie
Dobie, in History of Ontario, Vol 2, pages 796-6, published about
"(John Dobie was) a stone cutter and builder by trade, and in
1849 he brought his family to Canada, residing for a year at
Dunwich, on the Thames River, in Elgin county, where he engaged in
farming, but the occupation proved uncongenial, and he removed to
Toronto, where he resumed work at his trade. He was employed on
the construction of a number of public buildings in Toronto, and
confined his operations for five years to the building interests of
that city and of Whitby. In 1855 he again resumed farming in Grey
county. Family tradition is that he worked on St. James (Anglican)
Cathedral in Toronto, as well as the Whitby Court House."
Ruth (Fleming) Larmour states birth date of 3 April 1812, but has no
source (letter of 13 May, 1997). Name "David" from Althea Dobie,
Note on Mary Russell: This is the text of an e-mail sent me by George Ely Russell,
June 26, 1997. It was in answer to a query I made about the family tradition that
Isabella Russell was in some way connected to Lord John Russell:
"According to the International Genealogical Index of Scotish
parish registers, John Dobie and Isabel Russel had a child baptized
at Dumfries 17 March 1835. Isabel Russel was baptized at Dumfries
22 Nov. 1813, daughter of John Russel and Elisabeth Murdoch.
The Lord John Russell family has been well-studied and published,
and you can be fairly certain that there was no Dumfries connection
to that English family. I suggest that you arrange to have the
Dumfries Parish Registers checked for all Russel entries. You can
access them on microfilm via interlibrary loan at your LDS (Mormon)
Branch Family History Library.
There was also a marriage at Dumfries in 1829 of a James Russel
and a Dobbie woman."
- John Dobie, born circa 1835, Dumfriesshire, SCT6 died
3-Dec-1888, Thessalon, Ont.7 Single. Died of "Dropsy".
- Annie Dobie2. This Annie may not have existed.
She is not listed with the family in 1841 census in Liverpool, nor is she
mentioned in W.C. Dobie's account of his trip across the
Atlantic -- he says "there were five of us". She is listed here only
because she is in "The Dobie Family", produced by Barbara
- David Russell Dobie, born about 1837, Scotland8 occupation: Land &
insurance agent, married 26-Jan-1860, in Owen Sound, Ont.9
Charlotte Ann Shaw, born 4-Oct-1836, Toronto, Ont.10
(daughter of Thomas or Robert Shaw and Sarah Jane unknown)
died 14-Oct-1923, Owen Sound, Ont.11 David died 17-Jul-1900,
Owen Sound, Ont.12 Lived at West Street, Owen Sound at time
of death. Mother's name given as "Ann" on marriage
certificate. Marriage witnesses: Thos. Shaw, Wm. Dobie.
Married by Rev. John A. Williams, Wesleyan Methodist, Owen
Sound. Mother-in-law Jane Shaw living with David & Charlotte
in 1891 census.
- Annie Dobie, born 4-Jul-1863, Ontario13 occupation: School teacher.
- Jennie Dobie, born about 1866.14
- Isabel Dobie, born about 1869, Owen Sound, Ont.15 died
18-Sep-1884, Owen Sound, Ont.16 Died of "Billious
- David Russell Dobie, born 9-May-1871, Owen Sound, Ont.17 occupation:
Lawyer, publisher18 married 24-Oct-1924, in Owen Sound,
Ont.19 Ruth Eliza Jean Fleming, born 27-Aug-1882,
Kilsyth, Ont.20 (daughter of Charles Fleming and Eliza
Lydia Warren) died __-Apr-1971, Owen Sound, Ont.21
David died 25-Dec-1952, Owen Sound, Ont.18 buried
27-Dec-1952, Owen Sound, Ont.; Greenwood Cemetery22
See obituary of David Russell Dobie.
Note on Ruth Fleming: "Eliza Jean" from Ruth (FLeming) Larmour, letter of
13 May, 1997.
- Mary Ida Dobie, born 12-Nov-1873, Owen Sound, Ont.23 married
29-Mar-1899, in Owen Sound, Ont.24 Alexander Stephens
Butchart, born 22-Jan-1872, Owen Sound, Ont.25 (son of
George McLaughlin Butchart and Mary Chatwin) occupation:
Merchant. Mary died __-Jan-1967, Beverly Hills, CA,
Alexander: Marriage witnesses: D. Russell Dobie,
Thessalon; Bessie Scully, Owen Sound. Married by Rev. I.
Somerville. Connected with the Canada Cement Co., moved
to Beverley Hills, Ca. in 1907. Killed in a car accident,
(Jay Nellis' documents, per Mora
Hoskins, Desboro, ON).
- George Butchart, Living in Beverly Hills, CA in 1967 (mother's obit).
- Frank Butchart, Living in Beverly Hills, CA in 1967 (mother's obit).
- Constance Butchart, Living in Beverly Hills, CA in 1967 (mother's obit).
- Alan Butchart, died before 1967.27
- Allan Cameron Dobie, born 5-Apr-1876, Owen Sound, Ont.28 died
25-Dec-1880, Owen Sound, Ont.29 Died of "Scarlatina
- William Currie Dobie, born 1-Sep-1839, Liverpool, Eng.30 occupation:
Police magistrate, married (1) 15-Apr-186531 Sarah Dorothy
Coatsworth, born 17-Jun-1842, Perrys Lead Mine, St. Francis
County, MO31 (daughter of Joshua Coatsworth and Sarah
Bowman) died 1-Aug-1879, Port Arthur, Ont.32 married (2) cir
188833 divorced, Mary Ann Dobie, born 13-Feb-1851, Ekfrid
Twp., Ont.34 (daughter of David Dobie and Flora Roy McRae)
died 13-Oct-1931, Glencoe, Ont.35 William died 13-Nov-1928,
Port Arthur, Ont.30
See listing of William Currie Dobie and descendants.
- Elizabeth Dobie, born 15-May-1844, Canada89 married 3-Apr-1866,
in Chatsworth, Holland Twp., Grey Co., Ont.90 John
McKessock, born 19-Sep-1833, Scotland89 (son of J.
McKessock and M. Somerville) occupation: Farmer91 died
28-Sep-189292 buried Chatsworth U.C. Cemetery, Grey Co.,
Ont.5 Elizabeth died 3-Jan-192292 buried Chatsworth U.C.
Cemetery, Grey Co., Ont.5
John: Marriage witness Wm. Rankin, Holland. Married by Rev. James
Cameron of Chatsworth. Date on marriage cert. was 5 April
1866. Name was "John McKissock".
See listing of Elizabeth Dobie and descendants.
- Alexander Russell Dobie, born circa 1847, Liverpool, England110
occupation: Clerk, turnkey, merchant, married (1) 29-Jan-1875, in
Sullivan Twp., Grey County, Ont.111 Caroline Frances Cook,
born about 1854, Canada111 (daughter of Robert Cook and
Hannah Dowling) married (2) 30-Aug-1883, in Lefroy, Algoma,
Ont.112 Alice Ann Wood, born about 1860, Ashfield (now
Amberley) Huron Co., Ont.112 (daughter of William Wood and
Mary or Martha unknown). Alexander died circa 1917, Sault Ste.
Marie, Mich.113 Lived in Twp of Sullivan when married.
Witnesses: Joseph Dobie, Sullivan; Mary Ann Cook, Sullivan.
Married by N.D. McDiarmid, Methodist. Shown as widowed in 1881
census. Children Isabella and John not living with family in
1891 census, even though they were 10 & 13 years old.
Caroline: Caroline had died by the time of the 1881 census.
Alice: Marriage witnesses: Albert Moore & Etta Wood; Lefroy,
Algoma. Married by George H. Kenny. Alice's religion listed as
evangelist. Lefroy is about half way between Bradford &
Barrie, just east of Hwy. 11, near shore of southern end of
- Robert Cook Dobie, (son of Alexander Russell Dobie and Caroline
Frances Cook) born 17-Nov-1875, Owen Sound, Ont.114
occupation: Clerk, married 28-Oct-1897, in Thessalon, Ont.115
Agnes Ella Thomson, born 29-Aug-1872, E. Wawanosh Twp.,
Huron Co., Ont.116 (daughter of William Thomson and
Elizabeth McHue) died about 1965117 buried Thessalon,
Ont.; Little Rapids Cemetery118 Robert died
10-Nov-1945, Blind River, ON119 buried Thessalon, Ont.;
Little Rapids Cemetery120 Marriage witnesses: A.R.
Code, Maria Netterfield(?), Thessalon. Married by W.C.
Agnes: Name is "Egnes" in marriage record. Residence
at birth was Lot E-1/2 33, Con. 8, E. Wawanosh Twp.
- At least one child and one grandchild. Connected surname is Troke.
- Isabella Russell Dobie, (daughter of Alexander Russell Dobie and
Caroline Frances Cook) born 5-Dec-1877, Owen Sound,
Ont.123 occupation: Teacher18 married (1) 27-Apr-1904, in
Owen Sound, Ont.124 William Leroy McMurchy, born
1878, Holland Twp., Ont.125 (son of Archie
McMurchy and Mary Jane Liddle) occupation: Millwright, died
about 1908126 married (2) about 1932126 Robert
Rankin, . Isabella died 3-Feb-1947, Toronto, Ont.;
Women's College Hospital126 buried 6-Feb-1947, Owen
Sound, Ont.; Greenwood Cemetery126
William: Marriage witnesses: John A. Dobie, Mary Baines,
Owen Sound. Married by Rev. G.R. Turk.
- Frances McMurchy, (daughter of William Leroy McMurchy and Isabella
- John Alexander Dobie, (son of Alexander Russell Dobie and Caroline
Frances Cook) born 3-Feb-1880, Owen Sound, Ont.127 died
3-Oct-1913, Owen Sound, Ont.128 Died of typhoid fever.
- Mary Maude Lansdowne Dobie, (daughter of Alexander Russell Dobie
and Alice Ann Wood) born 30-Apr-1884, Thessalon,
Ont.129 married130 unknown Ferris, . Living in
Edmonton, AB in 1947 (sister Isabella's obituary).
- Harry Wood Dobie, (son of Alexander Russell Dobie and Alice Ann
Wood) born 27-Feb-1886, Thessalon, Ont.131 occupation: Scaler
(?), married 21-Dec-1908, in Sault Ste. Marie, Ont.132
May Jones, (daughter of James Jones and Harriet Rapin)
Marriage witnesses: Duncan Allieson, Belgren (?) Ont.;
Wm. C.C. Scott (?), Sault Ste. Marie. Married by E.E. Scott, Methodist.
- Alice Minerva Dobie, (daughter of Alexander Russell Dobie and
Alice Ann Wood) born 30-Dec-1887, Thessalon, Ont.133
Living in Sault Ste. Marie in 1947, unmarried (sister Isabella's obituary).
- Frank Pringle Dobie, (son of Alexander Russell Dobie and Alice Ann
Wood) born 26-Jan-1894, Thessalon, Ont.134 died
22-Aug-1894, Thessalon, Ont..135
- Joseph Brydon Dobie, born 9-Feb-1850, Dunwich, Elgin Co., ON136
occupation: Farmer, merchant, married 21-Oct-1886, in Keady,
Ont.137 Jessie Alice Ramage, born 4-Jan-1865, Strathavon,
Grey Co., Ont.138 (daughter of Thomas Howard Ramage and
Janet Amanda Elliot) died 23-Mar-1948, Owen Sound, Ont.138
Joseph died about 1940138 Married at "Keady in Derby".
Marriage witnesses: Mary Helen Stewart & Sarah Harbottle, both of Derby.
Married by Rev. John Stewart. Lived at Lot 13, Con. 2, Sullivan
See listing of Joseph Brydon Dobie and descendants.
- James Barnes Dobie, born 20-Jul-1852, Toronto, Ont.163 occupation:
Merchant, married 18-Sep-1877164 Mary Caroline Lobb, born
31-May-1854, Bruce Mines, Ont.165 (daughter of Samuel Lobb
and Ellen Trainor) died 25-Oct-1920, Thessalon, Ont.166
buried 28-Oct-1920, Thessalon, Ont.; Little Rapids
Cemetery167 James died __-Feb-1938, Sudbury, Ont.168
buried Thessalon, Ont.; Little Rapids Cemetery169 Canadian
Almanac 1875 lists J.B. Dobie as Postmaster of Bruce Mines,
Ont. Lived in Sudbury, Ont. in 1928 (W.C. Dobie death notice).
NOTE -- check marriage record for number.
See listing of James Barnes Dobie and descendants.
- Mary Currie Dobie, born 15-Aug-1854, Ontario204 married
3-Sep-1889, in Thessalon, Ont.205 Thomas Buchanan, born
11-Dec-1858, Ontario206 (son of Thomas Buchanan and Mary
Jane Warnock) occupation: Merchant, died about 1932207 buried
Thessalon, Ont.; Little Rapids Cemetery208 Mary died about
1934209 buried Thessalon, Ont.; Little Rapids Cemetery210
Lived in Thessalon in 1928 (W.C.Dobie obituary). Birth date of
15 Aug 1857 given on 1901 census (Thessalon), but age stated
as 34 on marriage record, making birth year 1854/55. John
McEachern states her birth year as 1854.
Thomas: Name spelled "Buchannan" on marriage certificate.
Witnesses: Charles Dickson and Elizabeth Ervin or Evans,
Thessalon. Married by Fred Woodger, Methodist. 1901 census
(Thessalon) shows Mary McKessock, born 15-March-1875, living
with the family and listed as a "lodger".
See listing of Mary Currie Dobie and descendants.